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Showing posts with label teaching spider guard. Show all posts
Showing posts with label teaching spider guard. Show all posts

18 July 2018

18/07/2018 - Spider Guard | Attacking | Tilt Sweep

Teaching #790
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 18/07/2018

Establish spider guard, gripping both sleeves in order to pull, while pushing into the crook of the elbows with your feet. Continue pushing up on one arm. Release your foot push on the other arm, pulling that arm down and between their legs (your elbow is on the mat). With your now free leg, chop into the outside of their same side leg.



As you do, continue pulling their arm, while pushing up and over your opposite shoulder with the foot that is still pressing into their arm. Continue to roll through, ending up on top.
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Teaching Notes: I can't remember if I got notes for this one, writing up a few months later. I'm in the process of trying to FINALLY catch up with my blog write-ups, it's going to take a while.

04 July 2018

04/07/2018 - Teaching | Open Guard | Maintaining Spider Guard

Teaching #789
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 04/07/2018

I started off with two drills, first swivelling side to side, leg extended on the inside, retracted on the inside (as per Xande and Chelsea). I could then build to the more complex AJ de Sousa drill for the lasso. Switch one leg to their same side hip. Extend your other leg, pulling in their arm on the hip side. You can then circle your hip leg around into a lasso. To switch, your straight leg goes to their hip and pushes, to control the distance. Lasso circles out again into a standard spider guard, extending. Then you pull on the other arm, circling that hip leg back into a lasso.

To put that in context, for spider guard there are three main variants, which require you to control both sleeves: this guard isn't commonly used in nogi for that reason, though it is possible to adapt. You will also normally have your feet curled around their biceps. For the most common variant, put your feet on their same side biceps, pulling their sleeves towards you, then push one leg straight, while keeping the other leg bent. This is intended to break their posture, keeping them off balance.

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That is true whether or not they are standing up. If you are facing straight on, you're at risk of your leg being thrown aside and passed. To counter that, swing your hip out, meaning that you are now more sideways, your outside leg bent, the other pushing straight. There are several basic spider guard sweeps from here, that work in either situation. You also don't have to push your feet into both biceps. There are numerous spider guard variations, such as pushing into one arm while also hooking behind their same side leg, or pushing into an arm and also holding a collar, which can set you up nicely for a triangle or omoplata.

A second option is to use your knees rather than your feet. While you could use this when they stand, it is more typical to do so when they're sat in your guard, given the obvious point that you've got a much smaller tool to work with when using your knees rather than the full length of your legs. The same sweeps can work here too, except that you're shoving their arm out to the side with your knee rather than your foot.

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In nogi, you could grab around the back of their arms, just behind the elbow. In gi, you can grab the sleeves. This is something that you'll see pop up in Gracie Combatives, where it is part of the punch block series. I don't really use this one, but it's an option, and there is a bunch of stuff you can do from here. Another nogi option is to grab all their fingers and use that instead of a sleeve, something Priit Mihkelson does.

The third option, and the one I prefer, is known as the lasso grip. Circle your leg around the outside of their arm, so that your lower leg is on the inside, then wrap your foot so that it hooks the outside of their arm. You can then either keep your foot there, or Dónal's option of going deeper, hooking it under their armpit and around their back. That gives you a bit more control over their posture, but makes it harder to extract your foot (e.g., if you want to switch into an omoplata).

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In terms of your sleeve grip, it's important to get that fabric as far round the front of your thigh as you can, clamping your elbow tight to your side. Braulio uses the metaphor of tying up a boat at the harbour: to pull their arm free, they have to not only fight your grip strength, but your thigh and your elbow as well.

As before, you don't have to keep both feet against their arms. You can also switch grip on their non-lassoed arm from the sleeve to their collar, slide your foot to their shoulder, or indeed push on the hip. That's useful if you find that you want to create some distance, as well as keep them off-balance. Pushing into their non-lasso side knee is another option to disrupt their base.

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Finally, a related position builds off what Neil Owen calls 'classic guard'. Neil also suggests putting your foot into their shoulder rather than the crook of their elbow, as that makes it harder for them to circle their arm free. Instead of pulling on the same side sleeve, he then switches to the opposite collar, while still maintaining his other sleeve grip. Your other foot goes to their hip.

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Sometimes you might find they manage to step in close, making it difficult to break down their posture. In that situation, you could try pushing their hips back with your feet. There is also the possibility of going for sweeps, such as single x, as that works well when somebody is crowding your hips.

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Teaching Notes: Too much for one lesson, so next time I'll miss out the shin on arms one and I won't mention the Neil Owen option either. Those could be in a separate class. Focus on getting the basic spider in, feet in biceps, then swivelling side to side. Point out that the outside leg is bent, emphasising that the other way round it is too easy for them to pass. Then build to the lasso off that (having done the drills in the warm up). More than that and people will get confused, especially beginners.

Braulio's 'tying up a boat at the harbour' analogy is good, that's worth mentioning. Josh made a good point: how do you deal with them just posturing up? I guess pushing into the hip with your foot, keeping their posture down. Too easy for them to stand up if you aren't doing that. But definitely a question I should ask somebody who is good at spider (Chelsea maybe? Recheck the vids too). Also, on the Priit finger grab, mention that you grab all of them, never just one. Important safety tip!

I should also mention about curling your feet around their arm, monkey gripping. Also, must get a better angle on the camera next time, use the wide angle lens with camera in portrait.

27 August 2014

27/08/2014 - Teaching | Open Guard | Maintaining Spider Guard

Teaching #189
Artemis BJJ (Bristol Sports Centre), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 25/08/2014

Following the women's class, I repeated the lesson on maintaining spider guard (as it was different people in class from last week). There are three main variants, all of which require you to grab both sleeves: this guard isn't commonly used in nogi for that reason, though it is possible to adapt. You will also normally have your feet curled around their biceps. For the most common variant, put your feet on their same side biceps, pulling their sleeves towards you, then push one leg straight, while keeping the other leg bent. This is intended to break their posture, keeping them off balance.

That is true whether or not they are standing up. There are several basic spider guard sweeps, which begin by pushing one arm out to the side, that work in either situation. You also don't have to push your feet into both biceps. There are numerous spider guard variations, such as pushing into one arm while also hooking behind their same side leg, or pushing into an arm and also holding a collar, which can set you up nicely for a triangle or omoplata.

A second option is to use your knees rather than your feet. While you could use this when they stand, it is more typical to do so when they're sat in your guard, given the obvious point that you've got a much smaller tool to work with when using your knees rather than the full length of your legs. The same sweeps can work here too, except that you're shoving their arm out to the side with your knee rather than your foot.

In nogi, you could grab around the back of their arms, just behind the elbow. In gi, you can grab the sleeves. This is something that you'll see pop up in Gracie Combatives, where it is part of the punch block series. I don't really use this one, but it's an option, and there is a bunch of stuff you can do from here.

The third option, and the one I and Dónal prefer, is known as the lasso grip. Circle your leg around the outside of their arm, so that your lower leg is on the inside, then wrap your foot so that it hooks the outside of their arm. You can then either keep your foot there, or Dónal's option of going deeper, hooking it under their armpit and around their back. That gives you a bit more control over their posture.

In terms of your sleeve grip, it's important to get that fabric as far round the front of your thigh as you can, clamping your elbow tight to your side. Braulio uses the metaphor of tying up a boat at the harbour: to pull their arm free, they have to not only fight your grip strength, but your thigh and your elbow as well.

As before, you don't have to keep both feet against their arms. You can also switch grip on their non-lassoed arm from the sleeve to their collar, slide your foot to their shoulder, or indeed push on the hip. That's useful if you find that you want to create some distance, as well as keep them off-balance. Pushing into their non-lasso side knee is another option to disrupt their base.

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Teaching Notes: The tattoo I got after the recent Grapplethon is still healing, but it's healed enough that I felt more comfortable demonstrating this time. Hopefully I'll be able to get back into sparring properly either on Saturday or next week. I added in the point about pulling pistol grips around the knees when you're in the knee spider guard variation. I was also able to briefly run through a few different options in response to questions and stuff I noticed in sparring.

First off, there was the simple scissor sweep. If you know how to do it from closed guard, you can do much the same thing from spider guard. The main difference is that rather than loading them up onto the shin you have across their stomach, you'll be bringing their weight forward with the foot you have on their bicep.

The typical situation is that they are on their knees. You have the orthodox spider guard, with one foot on their same side bicep and the other by their hip. Pull them forwards: just like the scissor sweep from closed guard, you want to bring your elbows right up by your head, to get them as far forward as possible.

This will take their weight off their knees, which means you can take your foot off their hip and chop through their same side knee. Help them over by kicking into their bicep, so that you're pushing diagonally towards your opposite shoulder. Roll through and settle into mount, or possibly side control if they end up too far.

I also very briefly ran through a few passing options at the end, which is basically shoving your knee in behind the leg you want to remove, using that tension to pop your arm free. This will be the last class on open guard until the new theme next month (unless we go for a third month on open guard), so I'll keep it in mind for next time.

One other thing that's important to keep in mind is how spider guard is hard on the fingers. So, if you're drilling spider guard for a whole class, that can get a bit unpleasant. Therefore next time I teach it, I'll try to think of ways to mitigate that. Given the finger strain, I probably wouldn't want to spend more than a week or at most two on spider guard stuff. ;)

20 August 2014

20/08/2014 - Teaching | Spider Guard | Maintaining

Teaching #186
Artemis BJJ (Bristol Sports Centre), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 20/08/2014

Following the women's class, it was time for an introduction to spider guard. There are three main variants, all of which require you to grab both sleeves: this guard isn't commonly used in nogi for that reason, though it is possible to adapt. You will also normally have your feet curled around their biceps. For the most common variant, put your feet on their same side biceps, pulling their sleeves towards you, then push one leg straight, while keeping the other leg bent. This is intended to break their posture, keeping them off balance.

That is true whether or not they are standing up. There are several basic spider guard sweeps, which begin by pushing one arm out to the side, that work in either situation. You also don't have to push your feet into both biceps. There are numerous spider guard variations, such as pushing into one arm while also hooking behind their same side leg, or pushing into an arm and also holding a collar, which can set you up nicely for a triangle or omoplata.

A second option is to use your knees rather than your feet. While you could use this when they stand, it is more typical to do so when they're sat in your guard, given the obvious point that you've got a much smaller tool to work with when using your knees rather than the full length of your legs. The same sweeps can work here too, except that you're shoving their arm out to the side with your knee rather than your foot.

In nogi, you could grab around the back of their arms, just behind the elbow. In gi, you can grab the sleeves. This is something that you'll see pop up in Gracie Combatives, where it is part of the punch block series. I don't really use this one, but it's an option, and there is a bunch of stuff you can do from here.

The third option, and the one I and Dónal prefer, is known as the lasso grip. Circle your leg around the outside of their arm, so that your lower leg is on the inside, then wrap your foot so that it hooks the outside of their arm. You can then either keep your foot there, or Dónal's option of going deeper, hooking it under their armpit and around their back. That gives you a bit more control over their posture.

In terms of your sleeve grip, it's important to get that fabric as far round the front of your thigh as you can, clamping your elbow tight to your side. Braulio uses the metaphor of tying up a boat at the harbour: to pull their arm free, they have to not only fight your grip strength, but your thigh and your elbow as well.

As before, you don't have to keep both feet against their arms. You can also switch grip on their non-lassoed arm from the sleeve to their collar, slide your foot to their shoulder, or indeed push on the hip. That's useful if you find that you want to create some distance, as well as keep them off-balance. Pushing into their non-lasso side knee is another option to disrupt their base.

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Teaching Notes: My friend Jodie tattooed me on Monday after her Grapplethon, so that was still healing. I've been slathering it with Bepanthen and wrapping it in cling film as per Jodie's handy instructions. That meant I was only taking part in class in a limited sense, but was able to demonstrate grips without too much difficulty.

Interestingly, during drilling the students pointed out that they found the pistol grip was perfect for the knee spider guard variation, as you can pull that 'pistol butt' of the sleeve around your knee. I'll have to keep that in mind for the next time I teach this, as it's a good point. :)

I thought about running through a basic sweep, but with my tattoo still healing up, that would have been difficult to demonstrate properly. But in cased I want to include it next time, it's very simple, as basically if you know how to do the scissor sweep from closed guard, you can do much the same thing from spider guard. The main difference is that rather than loading them up onto the shin you have across their stomach, you'll be bringing their weight forward with the foot you have on their bicep.

The typical situation is that they are on their knees. You have the orthodox spider guard, with one foot on their same side bicep and the other by their hip. Pull them forwards: just like the scissor sweep from closed guard, you want to bring your elbows right up by your head, to get them as far forward as possible.

This will take their weight off their knees, which means you can take your foot off their hip and chop through their same side knee. Help them over by kicking into their bicep, so that you're pushing diagonally towards your opposite shoulder. Roll through and settle into mount, or possibly side control if they end up too far.

There was also a cool thing I wanted to try from my instructor back when I was at RGA HQ, Jude Samuel, but again, my still-healing tattoo meant I'll leave it for next time. But to make sure I don't forget, it looks like this (I gave it a brief go at Jodie's Grapplethon, but couldn't remember it properly):

15 March 2012

15/03/2012 - Teaching (Passing Spider Guard)

Teaching #046
Gracie Barra Bristol, (BJJ), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 15/03/2012

[Strange: I must have forgotten to publish this post before I left for Scotland. Anyway, here it is, on the off-chance any of the students were waiting for this one to pop up]

There are several ways to clear off spider guard grips. If they are in an orthodox spider guard, then there are four handy techniques you can use, all of which are covered in Beneville and Cartmell's excellent Passing the Guard. The first two relate to spider guard when they have one foot pressed into your bicep, the other on your hip. On the bicep-foot side, step up your knee. Still on that same slide, bring your trapped arm down.

You want to angle your knee and your arm so that you bring their ankle across your knee. Continue to bring your arm down, leaving their foot behind stuck on your knee. Dip in low with your shoulder, under their leg, in order to underhook with the same side arm you just freed from their control. You can then immediately move into a single stack pass, gripping their opposite collar and driving your weight through their leg.

A similar option is to again step up your same side knee, but this time, press it into the back of their knee. Thrust your hips forward to really push that knee in, in order to pop their leg off your arm. Then as before, dip and underhook the leg, moving around for the stacking pass on that leg.

Another common version of spider guard is to control both of your arms with their legs, one extended, the other bent. This requires a different but still related pass. As before, you're going to drive your knee into the back of their knee, focusing on the leg they have bent. Pop that off your arm: Beneville recommends underhooking, or you can simply free the grip.

Either way, you then want to turn to face that leg, bringing your hips towards the other leg. That also means you can bring your knee on the other side into their other leg, where again you can use that pressure to remove their grip. From here, you could maintain your grips on their trousers, pushing them over to the side to pin their legs to the mat, then pass.

If they are being a bit lazy with their spider guard grips, so both legs are relatively square on and both either extended or bent, there is another option. Circle your hands inside their legs, palms facing towards you. Squat, then simultaneously drive your hips and arms forwards. This should knock both of their feet off your biceps. You can then keep driving forwards until you can sit on their legs. That puts you in a good position to pass.

Before I finished, I wanted to make sure I quickly covered removing a deep spider guard lasso. The main problem is that your hand is pulled past their leg. Therefore, you need to pull it back, until you can walk your hand around the outside of their leg and break the grip: you may find it useful to bring your knee to bear, as in the grip breaks above. Make sure you immediately bring your elbow back inside, sufficiently tight that they can't re-establish the grip you've just broken.

08 March 2012

08/03/2012 - Teaching (Maintaining Spider Guard, plus a sweep)

Teaching #045
Gracie Barra Bristol, (BJJ), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 08/03/2012

There are three main variants of spider guard, all of which require you to grab both sleeves: this guard isn't commonly used in nogi for that reason, though it is possible to adapt. You will also normally have your feet curled around their biceps. For the most common variant, put your feet on their same side biceps, pulling their sleeves towards you, then push one leg straight, while keeping the other leg bent. This is intended to break their posture, keeping them off balance.

That is true whether or not they are standing up. There are several basic spider guard sweeps, which begin by pushing one arm out to the side, that work in either situation. You also don't have to push your feet into both biceps. There are numerous spider guard variations, such as pushing into one arm while also hooking behind their same side leg, or pushing into an arm and also holding a collar, which can set you up nicely for a triangle or omoplata.

A second option is to use your knees rather than your feet. While you could use this when they stand, it is more typical to do so when they're sat in your guard, given the obvious point that you've got a much smaller tool to work with when using your knees rather than the full length of your legs. The same sweeps can work here too, except that you're shoving their arm out to the side with your knee rather than your foot.

In nogi, you could grab around the back of their arms, just behind the elbow. In gi, you can grab the sleeves. This is something that you'll see pop up in Gracie Combatives, where it is part of the punch block series. I don't really use this one, but it's an option, and there is a bunch of stuff you can do from here: for example, the series Big Mick taught when he was visiting us.

The third option, and the one I and Dónal prefer, is known as the lasso grip. Circle your leg around the outside of their arm, so that your lower leg is on the inside, then wrap your foot so that it hooks the outside of their arm. You can then either keep your foot there, or Dónal's option of going deeper, hooking it under their armpit and around their back. That gives you a bit more control over their posture.

In terms of your sleeve grip, it's important to get that fabric as far round the front of your thigh as you can, clamping your elbow tight to your side. Braulio uses the metaphor of tying up a boat at the harbour: to pull their arm free, they have to not only fight your grip strength, but your thigh and your elbow as well.

As before, you don't have to keep both feet against their arms. You can also switch grip on their non-lassoed arm from the sleeve to their collar, slide your foot to their shoulder, or indeed push on the hip. That's useful if you find that you want to create some distance, as well as keep them off-balance. Pushing into their non-lasso side knee is another option to disrupt their base.

I decided to put all those variations into the first technique segment of the lesson this time round, running through a basic sweep for the second. It's very simple, as basically if you know how to do the scissor sweep from closed guard, you can do much the same thing from spider guard. The main difference is that rather than loading them up onto the shin you have across their stomach, you'll be bringing their weight forward with the foot you have on their bicep.

The typical situation is that they are on their knees. You have the orthodox spider guard, with one foot on their same side bicep and the other by their hip. Pull them forwards: just like the scissor sweep from closed guard, you want to bring your elbows right up by your head, to get them as far forward as possible.

This will take their weight off their knees, which means you can take your foot off their hip and chop through their same side knee. Help them over by kicking into their bicep, so that you're pushing diagonally towards your opposite shoulder. Roll through and settle into mount, or possibly side control if they end up too far.