11/12/2017 - Teaching | Open Guard | Shin-On-Shin (Roll Over Sweep)

Teaching #736
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 11/12/2017

Short Version:

• Bring your same-side shin tight to theirs, knee angled out
• Wrap your same side arm tight around their leg, head on the inside
• Grab their sleeve with your other arm, feed it to your wrapping arm
• Grip their shoulder/head with your free hand, pulling down
• Lift with your shin to roll them over, come up in knee-on-belly

Full Version:

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Jun 26, 2017 at 1:04am PDT

The shin-to-shin guard provides an additional pressure to your sweeps, giving you the very useful ability to lift compared to koala guard or de la Riva (or at least, I find it's much easier to lift with shin on shin than de la Riva). I first started playing with this after my instructor showed me some options at a private in 2015, then in more depth at Ana's seminar. Kev also went through the sequence again at the grading seminar recently. Put your shin in front of their same side leg, wrapping behind that leg with your same side arm. Your other leg pushes on their knee. That will normally make them post their arm, or at least put the arm in range.

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Dec 13, 2017 at 12:31am PST

Make sure that the knee on your shin leg is at forty five degrees. If it is too high, they can push your knee out of the way and pass, so keep it low enough to prevent an easy push. Grab their sleeve, with the intention to pass their arm under their leg to your other hand, which is waiting there behind their leg. Ideally, pull it all the way behind their knee, as far over in that direction as you can. With your passing hand, grab high on the arm you just controlled, up near their shoulder. Pull down on that arm as you lift with your shin. It's much the same motion as the basic de la Riva sweep I was taught at GB Brum.

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Dec 13, 2017 at 11:23pm PST

There is also a kneeling version:

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Jun 26, 2017 at 11:52pm PDT

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Teaching Notes: It's important to stay tight on the knee, getting the shin in position too. When you grab the arm, you need to make sure you pull it in far enough (use the Kev option, pulling it right behind their knee). There's also the question of how far around the leg do you move your bum: should you be on the side of them, slight angle? Something to test out. I'm also not 100% certain on the knee angle. I normally say 45 degrees, but that Dylan Hewitt technique with his roll uder is a lot closer to their knee.

23/06/2017 - Teaching | Open Guard | Shin-on-Shin Arm Trap Roll

Teaching #678
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 23/06/2017

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Jun 26, 2017 at 1:04am PDT

The shin-to-shin guard provides an additional pressure to your sweeps, giving you the very useful ability to lift compared to koala guard or de la Riva (or at least, I find it's much easier to lift with shin on shin than de la Riva). I first started playing with this after my instructor showed me some options at a private in 2015, then in more depth at Ana's seminar. Kev also went through the sequence again at the grading seminar recently. Put your shin in front of their same side leg, wrapping behind that leg with your same side arm. Your other leg pushes on their knee. That will normally make them post their arm, or at least put the arm in range.

Make sure that the knee on your shin leg is at forty five degrees. If it is too high, they can push your knee out of the way and pass, so keep it low enough to prevent an easy push. Grab their sleeve, with the intention to pass their arm under their leg to your other hand, which is waiting there behind their leg. Ideally, pull it all the way behind their knee, as far over in that direction as you can. With your passing hand, grab high on the arm you just controlled, up near their shoulder. Pull down on that arm as you lift with your shin. It's much the same motion as the basic de la Riva sweep I was taught at GB Brum.

There is also a kneeling version:

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Jun 26, 2017 at 11:52pm PDT

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Sparring Notes: Again, emphasise the angle of the knee, so they can't easily push it out of the way and pass (like I say in the video - it is going to be super useful having that to analyse for future lessons now, glad I started doing it since the grading :D). I've been describing it as "about 45 degrees", which I think is about right, but my maths is horrendous and therefore I may have got that wrong. ;)

Highlighting Kev's tip about pulling their sleeve all the way past the back of the knee is something I'll keep doing. Make sure you're tight to the leg, being wary of them crushing you onto your back with their knee. The way to prevent that, I think, is getting your shoulder behind their knee and angling off. I should double check that though. This is definitely the area where I have the most trouble with shin on shin, as I don't always get the ideal angle or tightness. Milka noted that the way I was clamping my head to her leg when demonstrating felt like it was important to the tightness too, worth noting.

I tend to finish in knee on belly, Kev had a longer sequence with a nifty pass that splits the legs. I could show that next time, I decided against it in the interests of simplicity. I've also been adding in more complex warm up drills, though still not mega complex. E.g., rather than just shrimping, I added a backwards breakfall, then scooting back in sitting guard, technical stand-up, backwards breakfall again.

A post shared by Artemis BJJ (@artemisbjj) on Jun 29, 2017 at 2:17am PDT

I want to think more about how you can insert your shin into position when they are partway through a knee cut. That is a great way to turn their pass into a sweep, something I should play with more.

29/07/2016 - Teaching | Open Guard | Shin-on-shin sweep (no sleeve)

Teaching #537
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 29/07/2016

The shin-to-shin guard provides an additional pressure to your sweeps, giving you the very useful ability to lift compared to koala guard or de la Riva (or at least, I find it's much easier to lift with shin on shin than de la Riva). I first started playing with this after my instructor showed me some options at a private in 2015, then in more depth at Ana's seminar. Put your shin in front of their same side leg, wrapping behind that leg with your same side arm. Your other leg pushes on their knee. That will normally make them post their arm, or at least put the arm in range.

Make sure that the knee on your shin leg is at forty five degrees. If it is too high, they can push your knee out of the way and pass, so keep it low enough to prevent an easy push. Grab their sleeve, with the intention to pass their arm under their leg to your other hand, which is waiting there behind their leg. With your passing hand, grab high on the arm you just controlled, up near their shoulder. Pull down on that arm as you lift with your shin. It's much the same motion as the basic de la Riva sweep I was taught at GB Brum.

Another option is to instead grab their far ankle, rather than high on their arm. This is to block them from stepping to recover their base. You can then again lift with the shin and drive through for the sweep. That's especially useful if you can't get their arm, when you can (again like the de la Riva series from GB Brum) grab their belt or gi tail instead and pass that under their leg. Should they base out heavily on their arms when you go for the sweep, you can potentially switch to a single leg by swivelling around behind their leg, or move to take their back.

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Teaching & Sparring Notes: I'm wondering if I should teach this as starting from feet on hips, pushing into the knee and sitting up. That's how Ana taught it, which I think would make more sense. Going straight to the shin-on-shin position isn't going to happen in sparring, so some kind of set up would be handy. I'll also get a feel for that as I continue to use the shin-on-shin more often in my own sparring.

Sparring with Matt, it seems a good way to stuff the shin on shin is to crouch low, which worked well for me when I was on top. If they leave any space, you can also quickly swivel your foot past the shin to re-establish passing posture. I need to have a think on how to stop that messing up the guard. At the moment, I think pushing into their knee with your free foot makes sense. Same goes for the deep de la Riva, what to do when that goes wrong? Chiu's hybrid spider may be a good one, as it doesn't rely on the really painful grips, instead grasping the collar of the jacket, pushing into their arm. That's an option I used to do a lot, based on Xande's DVD. I'll have more of a play with that again.

Another interesting thing Matt has been doing more often in sparring is turning to turtle to avoid my pass. I haven't been getting an over-under grip on his arms quick enough. Perhaps more Adamson style passing to mount is required? Or just take the back more effectively, I guess.

27/07/2016 - Teaching | Open Guard | Shin-to-shin sweep

Teaching #536
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 27/07/2016

The shin-to-shin guard provides an additional pressure to your sweeps, giving you the very useful ability to lift compared to koala guard or de la Riva (or at least, I find it's much easier to lift with shin on shin than de la Riva). I first started playing with this after my instructor showed me some options at a private in 2015, then in more depth at Ana's seminar. Put your shin in front of their same side leg, wrapping behind that leg with your same side arm. Your other leg pushes on their knee. That will normally make them post their arm, or at least put the arm in range.

Make sure that the knee on your shin leg is at forty five degrees. If it is too high, they can push your knee out of the way and pass, so keep it low enough to prevent an easy push. Grab their sleeve, with the intention to pass their arm under their leg to your other hand, which is waiting there behind their leg. With your passing hand, grab high on the arm you just controlled, up near their shoulder. Pull down on that arm as you lift with your shin. It's much the same motion as the basic de la Riva sweep I was taught at GB Brum.
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Sparring Notes: This is something I've been wanting to improve since Kev showed me back in February 2015. Ana's seminar helped me get it sorted in my head, so I think this is a technique I can incorporate better into my open guard now, something I've sorely needed. After a number of years attempting to get my open guard into shape, it feels like I'm finally beginning to get somewhere. But as ever, you have good days and bad days in BJJ. I'm writing this a couple of weeks later after using lots of shin on shin during sparring where it worked ok, which would explain why I'm feeling especially positive about it right now.