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Showing posts with label teaching # Back: Crucifix Shoulder Lock. Show all posts
Showing posts with label teaching # Back: Crucifix Shoulder Lock. Show all posts

22 March 2019

22/03/2019 - Teaching | Back | Dog leg armbar/shoulder lock

Teaching #846
Artemis BJJ (Easton Road), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 22/03/2019

Secure the crucifix by driving your knee in from the side ride, flaring your knee out, then hooking their arm with your other heel. Drag their arm back and make sure it stays trapped between your legs.

Put the knee nearest their head slightly forward, still controlling their arm. Turn to face their legs, grabbing their ankle to anchor yourself in place, with your head in line with their bum. At this point you will need to switch your legs, so that you can get the leg further away from their head closer to their wrist. Twist your body and swing the leg furthest from their head backwards, still hooking the arm. Do this movement gradually, as that shoulder lock can come on quickly, depending on their flexibility.


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Teaching Notes: Putting your free knee into their shoulder, worth emphasising. Also, is there a slight backwards motion as well as bringing the leg out (like a dog weeing)? Often turns into an armbar instead of a shoulder lock, not sure that matters too much. Does seem to work, as long as you get that angle right and lock the shoulder down.

09 December 2018

09/12/2018 - Teaching | Back | Crucifix Rolling Leg Kimura (Reverse Omoplata) No GI

Teaching #821
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 08/12/2018



Once you've already got into the crucifix from turtle, with their arm bent around your leg, there's a relatively simple roll through to sweep or submit. To make things easier (and safer, for drilling), I am assuming they have already grabbed inside their own leg to prevent you getting the arm. Base out on your far arm, then do a tight roll over your near shoulder, similar to breakfalling. You aren't looking to travel forward much with that roll: attempt to roll underneath yourself.

As you roll, reach your near arm under their shoulder, aiming to grab their near leg. Continue the roll, making sure you still have their arm and leg trapped. They will normally roll too, due to the pressure on their shoulder. Be careful, as if you're too explosive you may put excessive strain on their shoulder: stay controlled throughout your rolling motion. That roll should result with you in an upright position, while they are lying next to you.

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It's essential that you still have both their leg and their arm trapped. Wrap your arms tightly around their leg, then switch so you have your outside arm around their leg. The elbow of your inside arm goes into their far armpit. Keep leaning into them throughout, keeping your leg tense so they can't unbend their arm or pull it free (if they do, you still get side control, a pretty good consolation prize). From side control, you can easily switch into various attacks (like the step over triangle), as long as you make sure you keep their arm trapped with your legs.

Assuming you have managed to keep their arm bent with your near leg, base on your far leg, keeping your near leg closely wrapped on their arm. Use the base from your far leg to keep bringing your hips back. You then tilt slightly, to bring your bottom leg underneath you. This should eventually torque their arm to the point that they tap from the shoulder pressure. To keep the arm bent, as you roll you can try keeping your leg bent back. Don't worry too much about it though, as you'll almost certainly still end up on top in side control.


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Teaching Notes: Main thing is thinking about how to keep the arm bent next time. Switching the legs and bending your leg back, perhaps? I shall experiment next time. As this was the nogi class, I didn't have the chance to practice it beforehand in a daytime sesssio. Next time, I should be able to iron out those kinks. Doing the 'roll underneath yourself' drill as a warm up makes a big difference I think, but people are still frequently not getting the tilt motion. They naturally think it is just scooting the hips back: so, emphasise tilt again. :)


25 November 2016

25/11/2016 - Teaching | Back | Crucifix Rolling Leg Kimura (Reverse Omoplata)

Teaching #599
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 25/11/2016

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The situation is therefore that you've already got into the crucifix, with their arm bent around your leg. To make things easier (and safer, for drilling), I am assuming they have already grabbed inside their own leg to prevent you getting the arm. Base out on your far arm, then do a tight roll over your near shoulder, similar to breakfalling. You aren't looking to travel forward much with that roll: attempt to roll underneath yourself.

As you roll, reach your near arm under their shoulder, aiming to grab their near leg. Continue the roll, making sure you still have their arm and leg trapped. They will normally roll too, due to the pressure on their shoulder. Be careful, as if you're too explosive you may put excessive strain on their shoulder: stay controlled throughout your rolling motion. That roll should result with you in an upright position, while they are lying next to you.

It's essential that you still have both their leg and their arm trapped. Wrap your arms tightly around their leg, then switch so you have your outside arm around their leg. The elbow of your inside arm goes into their far armpit. Keep leaning into them throughout, keeping your leg tense so they can't unbend their arm or pull it free (if they do, you still get side control, a pretty good consolation prize).

Base on your far leg, keeping your near leg closely wrapped on their arm. Assuming you have managed to keep their arm bent with your near leg, use the base from your far leg to keep bringing your hips back. You then tilt slightly, to bring your bottom leg underneath you. This should eventually torque their arm to the point that they tap.

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Teaching Notes: Doing this as a follow up to the dog leg armbar works well, which checking my notes is what I did last time I taught this two years ago too. This takes longer to teach, so that's important to keep in mind in terms of warm-up length. I added breakfalls to the warm-up, to help with that rolling underneath yourself element. People were ending too far from the leg, so I'll emphasise hugging it. Others were losing the arm as they rolled through, another thing to point out (although if you end in side control, not too bad).

Aesopian had some good tips on Instagram, specifically on being too far from the leg: "A tighter and deeper hug on the leg fixes that. Try to get your head next to the knee even if you have to shoulder walk." Final thing to emphasise is the finish: it isn't just scooting back, you're also raising your hips to tilt, bringing your leg underneath you.

23 November 2016

23/11/2016 - Teaching | Back | Crucifix Dog Leg Armbar

Teaching #598
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 23/11/2016

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Secure the crucifix by driving your knee in from the side ride, flaring your knee out, then hooking their arm with your other heel. Drag their arm back and make sure it stays trapped between your legs.

Put the knee nearest their head slightly forward, still controlling their arm. Turn to face their legs, grabbing their ankle to anchor yourself in place, with your head in line with their bum. At this point you will need to switch your legs, so that you can get the leg further away from their head closer to their wrist. Twist your body and swing the leg furthest from their head backwards, still hooking the arm. Do this movement gradually, as that shoulder lock can come on quickly, depending on their flexibility.
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Teaching Notes: Dave Jacobs describes this as a shoulder lock, but it invariably becomes an armbar when I do it. I'm not sure exactly what he's doing different, but I'll check that carefully for next time. It still works as an armbar, but meh, would be good to get the shoulder lock properly. Jacobs puts his non-lifting leg by their shoulder, which might explain it: for the armbar, you need to put it up higher. Also, I keep emphasising that if you can't get this, you've still got all the other stuff, from clock chokes to reverse omoplatas. :)

27 November 2015

27/11/2015 - Teaching | The Back | Crucifix (Kneeling) Shoulder Lock

Teaching #429
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 27/11/2015

Tonight I shared a technique from the Dave Jacobs seminar I went to in 2014, from the kneeling crucifix (as Aesopian dubs it in Mastering the Crucifix). Secure the crucifix by driving your knee in from the side ride, flaring your knee out, then hooking their arm with your other heel. Drag their arm back and make sure it stays trapped between your legs.

Put the knee nearest their head slightly forward, still controlling their arm. Turn to face their legs, grabbing their ankle to anchor yourself in place, with your head in line with their bum. At this point you will need to switch your legs, so that you can get the leg further away from their head closer to their wrist. Twist your body and swing the leg furthest from their head backwards, still hooking the arm. Do this movement gradually, as that shoulder lock can come on quickly, depending on their flexibility.
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Teaching Notes: When I last taught this just over a year ago, it was as part of a month focused on the crucifix. We haven't done anywhere near as much from the turtle this time around, so I think people were finding it tougher than last time (though previously it was mostly people around the same level, IIRC). Before I teach this again, I'll make sure it's in the context of a series of lessons around the turtle and the crucifix specifically.

The initial entry caused some confusion as people were trying to slide their whole leg across, rather than just sliding the knee sideways. They also weren't always bringing the second leg all the way under the arm. I think that's because it wasn't in the context of going for the crucifix, but specifically for this shoulder lock, where you switch the legs anyway.

Another problematic part was getting the angle on the arm. There it looks like the issue was people weren't bringing their head around far enough. The head should be in line with their bum, while the other knee is by their head, not too far from the first knee. That should then put you in the right spot to get the leverage you need when you 'dog leg'.

Next time, it will make more sense to perhaps show this one after I've shown a crucifix entry with the choke. Then I could show the crucifix armbar, and if I get some more experienced people, maybe the reverse omoplata again too. But yeah, quite complex for beginners (though it can be done, worked ok last time when I had a whole month of it), so needs plenty of build up. ;)

22 September 2014

22/09/2014 - Teaching | The Back | Crucifix Rolling Shoulder Lock (Reverse Omoplata)

Teaching #199
Artemis BJJ (Bristol Sports Centre), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 22/09/2014

When teaching the Dave Jacobs shoulder lock last week, one of the points that came up is people bending their trapped arm back around your leg as soon as you secure the crucifix. That makes it tough to finish the Jacobs lock, but it sets you up for another shoulder lock, the reverse omoplata. The situation is therefore that you've already got into the crucifix (like this, if you missed the previous lessons), with their arm bent around your leg.

Base out on your far arm, then do a tight roll over your near shoulder, similar to breakfalling. You aren't looking to travel forward much with that roll: attempt to roll underneath yourself. As you roll, reach your near arm under their shoulder, aiming to grab their near leg. Continue the roll, making sure you still have their arm and leg trapped. They will normally roll too, due to the pressure on their shoulder. Be careful, as if you're too explosive you may put excessive strain on their shoulder: stay controlled throughout your rolling motion.

That roll should result with you in an upright position, while they are lying next to you. It's essential that you still have both their leg and their arm trapped. Continuing to lean into them, switch the arm you have controlling their leg, enabling you to move the other arm over their body. I'd suggest putting your elbow into their far armpit for control, as you want to prevent their ability to move.

Base on your far leg, keeping your near leg closely wrapped on their arm: if they are able to unbend their arm at any point, it's going to be really hard to finish the submission. If are able to straighten their arm, it's not disastrous as that puts you in side control with their arm trapped, a great position from which to launch a range of attacks. Assuming you have managed to keep their arm bent with your near leg, use the base from your far leg to keep bringing your hips back. This should eventually torque their arm to the point that they tap.

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Teaching Notes: This class marks the culmination of my Mastering the Crucifix teaching experiment. That's because the reverse omoplata is something that the author of that book, Matt 'Aesopian' Kirtley, has been championing on Aesopian.com for a long time, with some notable success stories (like a guy who managed to learn the technique from Kirtley's site to the extent that he's even won MMA fights with it). He's always said that it is unfairly seen as complex, because it's something he learned on his first day and has been using ever since. I am very keen on basics: up until tonight, the reverse omoplata has been firmly in the "too complex for me" category.

However, I think I'm finally starting to come around to Aesopian's way of thinking, now that I've drilled the technique at open mat and taught a class of mostly beginners a few days later. I'd agree with him that it would be useful to "de-stigmatize the name", as he puts it in Mastering the Crucifix. I'd probably describe this as a 'crucifix rolling shoulder lock', which may or may not be less scary than 'reverse omoplata'. Either way, the mechanics are not as difficult as you might expect, especially if you're already familiar with the crucifix.

Aesopian teaches this with the assumption that you have to force their arm backwards. I simplified it by assuming they've already done that for you, in order to escape that Jacobs shoulder lock I went through before (Aesopian shows something similar in his troubleshooting section, as a way of baiting them into bringing their arm back). That meant I didn't have to teach the part about getting their arm into position, a good thing as there are a fair few moving parts to this technique already.

Everyone in class managed to get the concept ok, even the person who was having his first class (if he decides to stick with BJJ, I'll be very curious to see if he has the same experience as Aesopian, with the reverse omoplata becoming a long-standing part of his arsenal). The main point of difficulty was keeping the arm bent as you moved your hips back, so that's something I'll focus on whenever I next come to teach this. Another related problem is lifting your hips to get that torque without letting them free their arm. But as Aesopian mentions in his instructional, losing the arm means you're in a strong side control position, so all is far from lost.

There are probably some other drills I could use to help with the motion. I tried using breakfalling as a way of getting the motion down, as I think it's similar. I don't generally do much breakfalling, based on my girlfriend and a few others telling me that they found it off-putting in warm-ups. But it would be good to add in some kind of takedown element to the warm-up, at least occasionally, as a few people have asked for that. I'll have a think about the most widely applicable takedown: maybe a single leg? Something else for me to think about. I'll have a look on BJJ Library and see what Saulo recommends, as that's invariably a good supplement.

On a random note, until I was doing the blog labels for my open mat post from Saturday, I had completely forgotten that I've been taught the reverse omoplata before. Turns out I first learned it at RGA Bucks back in 2011. :)

15 September 2014

15/09/2014 - Teaching | The Back | Crucifix (Kneeling) Shoulder Lock

Teaching #196
Artemis BJJ (Bristol Sports Centre), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 15/09/2014

Tonight I shared another technique from the Dave Jacobs seminar, this time from the kneeling crucifix (as Aesopian dubs it in Mastering the Crucifix). Secure the crucifix by driving your knee in from the side ride, flaring your knee out, then hooking their arm with your other heel. Drag their arm back and make sure it stays trapped between your legs.

Put the knee nearest their head slightly forward, still controlling their arm. Turn to face their legs, grabbing their ankle to anchor yourself in place. At this point you will probably need to switch your legs, so that you can get the leg further away from their head closer to their wrist. Twist your body and swing the leg furthest from their head backwards, still hooking the arm. Do this movement gradually, as that shoulder lock can come on quickly, depending on their flexibility.
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Teaching Notes: Interestingly, it seemed people were finding that sometimes this was a shoulder lock, sometimes it ended up attacking the elbow as with an armbar, depending on leg and arm configuration. Chris had a little addition, as he said he liked to be able to see what he was doing when submitting. So, he kept his legs together and twisted back to look at them. He also grabbed their wrist when switching legs, to make sure they can't wriggle their arm free.

Next time, I should probably mention that you can switch legs during the transition, though I'm not sure if that makes it easier. I had a play with the crucifix in sparring, especially the armbar I think I'll teach on Wednesday. I'm not big on armbars, but this is an important one to add into the mix, as it means you can attack with a choke and an armbar simultaneously: Aesopian makes a point of that when he teaches it on Mastering the Crucifix.

I'm also continuing to play with the 'post, posture, leverage' tip on sweeps from Beyond Technique. Although it hasn't yet led me to a sweep, it is useful to have it in mind as a goal when in guard.