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Showing posts with label quarter guard back take. Show all posts
Showing posts with label quarter guard back take. Show all posts

16 August 2018

16/08/2018 - BJJ Globetrotter Camp | Heidelberg 2018 | Heather Raftery (Quarter guard)

Class #1033
BJJ Globetrotter Camp (Olympiastützpunkt Rhein-Neckar) Heather Raftery, Heidelberg, Germany, 16/08/2018

Fun warm ups with shipwreck game, then into a great quarter guard series. You've clamped their leg, squeezing your knees. İt is paramount that you get the underhook, so fight hard for that. 

Once you have it, swivel to your knees bringing your hip over. You can either trap their leg mainly with one foot and sit all the way down onto your heel, or you can swivel both knees in. Knees keeps their leg more secure, but gives you less base. 

From there, shuck them forward, wrap up the back, then chop your knee into theirs, bringing your bottom hook in first. İf they whizzer, limp arm out and then grab the back. 

Should the limp arm not work, still swivel up, but this time grab their far knee and drive. Flatten your hips into them, splaying your knees out like a frog. Windscreen wiper your leg over to hook, then insert your arm at the crook of their knee. You can then move around behind. 

If they put their foot up instead, do the same swivel up, but now you can't grab a knee. İnstead, push into them, in order to get them pushing back. When they do, dive under and C cup their other leg, rolling through to the top. 

Finally, if they ignore all of that by back stepping opposite side pass style, you need to rotate your leg under and flick. Try and catch them in the transition, so they can't hook their arm behind. İf they do that, frame into their neck and try to triangle their head. 

26 July 2016

26/07/2016 - Open Mat | Quarter Guard

Class #758
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 26/07/2016

Chris went through some quarter guard material he learned at the UK BJJ Globetrotter camp in Bournemouth last week, taught by dance maestro Bruno. The first was a rolling back take (I think the same one I taught a while ago, though I need to review that as I'm not as confident with it as I'd like), then a method of securing the pass by swinging your leg over. You need to bring your quarter-guarded knee across their body, swinging your other leg around their head, resulting in both your legs on the same side. Securing a strong cross face, it should then be much easier to complete the pass.

If you're cross facing and they shove into your head with an arm, knock it across to move into an arm triangle position. Headstand to pop your body over the the right side for the submission, then locking up the usual rear naked choke grip to clamp your head next to theirs, press your shoulder forward for the choke. Stay low when you do this.

When you go for the opposite side pass, they may try and push into your head, or otherwise bring their arm up. Get behind that arm, squirming under their armpit. Ideally you're doing that with your arm, but I tried doing it with my head, as that's easier in terms of distancing. You can then duck under their armpit and swivel around to their back, taking it like you would from technical mount.

On the shin-on-shin sweep, Chris confirmed that the ankle tap was indeed for when you've lost the sleeve grip, so switch to a nappy grip on either their gi tail or belt instead.

12 June 2016

12/06/2016 - Open Mat | Half Guard Kimura & Quarter Guard Back Take

Class #722
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 12/06/2016

Really good open mat today, I got through everything I wanted to drill. That was two techniques, beginning with the kimura from the bottom of half guard, as I want to teach that on Wednesday. The kimura is not something I've ever used much in half guard, though I like it from closed guard, and I like the grip from everywhere. I had always thought that to kimura effectively from the half guard, you'd need to do it on the free leg side, in order to get that leg over the back and generate enough torque. I was wrong.

Researching it this week, there were two especially good sets of videos on this. The first was from my favourite online instruction site, BJJ Library. Xande shows how even if they are hiding their arm, as long as you can get the grip, you can still harvest that arm. He does it by scooting his hips towards them. Testing that today, it really works. The second set was by Andrew 'Goatfury' Smith, well known for his expertise in the kimura.

I've been aware of his excellent Hubpages sequence of tutorials, but until now I haven't looked in much depth at his half guard kimura. I'm glad I did, as there is loads there: exactly the place to go to refine my knowledge before I teach it. I stuck with the basic kimura he shows, but he also has advanced option on there, as well as a version from the top and a 're-kimura' defence. I've seen something like that rekimura before, which reminded me to try it today: I basically just grabbed my wrist and started pulling it through, which enabled me to escape.

For applying the kimura, Smith shows how you can grip their wrist and flare their elbow back with your other hand, folding the arm right into your kimura grip. I preferred doing this from the double paw, which seemed to work fairly well. If they pull their arm back, go for the sit-up sweep. If not, curl your hands in to prevent them straightening the arm (if they do straighten the arm, you might be able to wriggle into an armbar. I managed a pressing armbar off that today, but I ended up loosening my half guard a lot to do it, so that may not work against somebody wise to what I'm trying). Clamp the elbow to your chest, then you can torque for the kimura as usual.

I also had a play with something I saw regarding quarter guard, off a 10th Planet video. I am generally very wary of 10th Planet videos, as there is a huge amount of crap out there. However, this one looked ok, and did seem to work, although I may have modified it. As your partner is trying to knee cut through your half guard, maintain control on their lower leg. From the kickstand, switch your outside foot so that it is hooking under your inside foot, as well as their leg (so, into a sort of mini-lockdown). This mini-lockdown is the part I'm not sure they were doing in the video, but it feels like it would be way too lose without that lock.

You can then kick their leg back to take out their base. Bring your outside foot over their leg and turn, reaching for their far foot. If you grab that, you can progress into a toe grab sweep, coming on top for side control.

13 August 2015

13/08/2015 - BJJ Globetrotter Camp | Rolling Back Attacks

Class #657
BJJ Globetrotter Camp (Sportoase Leuven), Oli Geddes, Leuven, Belgium, 13/08/2015

I went straight from the plane to the train, then walked from Leuven Train Station to the Sportoase. There was already a class going on when I entered, but as it was wrestling I wasn't too concerned about missing it. I had plenty of time to get checked in with Vara at the BJJ Globetrotter desk, then get changed.

The class I wanted was Oli Geddes' session on rolling back attacks. This was perhaps a bit fancy by my standards and it was nogi: I almost never take the gi off for BJJ. Nevertheless, there were some useful techniques from quarter guard and half guard, handy given that it is currently half guard month back home at Artemis BJJ.


Oli kicked off with a rolling back take against turtle. Turn to face their legs, with your knee nearest their head looking to jam inside the space between their knee and elbow. Your other knee is blocking their leg, to make it harder for them to reclaim guard. With the arm nearest their head, reach over and grab their ankle (at least that's what my training partner Stacey and I ended up doing).

Your other hand grabs inside their leg, gripping the ankle. Lift that ankle up and outwards, to make it easier to get your waiting leg inside (slipping it under first), hooking around their leg. Thrust your hips into them, then diving over to the far side, roll over the shoulder nearest their head (I think? I need to check that with more drilling). Get past their hip, swinging through to grab their arm and take their back.

If you get part way through the back take, but can't reach their arm or hip to complete the motion, wrap up their near leg with your arms instead. Your legs will still be clamping around their other leg. Pull on their leg with your arms, extending into their other leg for the submission. You can put one foot behind the other for extra leverage. Note that this submission is entirely down to their flexibility, so it has some limitations.

If you are going for the back, but can't get hold of anything, you can still triangle your legs around the leg you do have. Pull down on their toes for the calf crush. Wrapping their leg with your arm can add in extra pressure.

We then moved to a rolling back take from quarter guard, a common position as you're passing half guard or they are trying to escape mount. Turn away from the foot they've trapped, adjusting your knee position so it doesn't catch on their leg. Roll inside (I think inside? Again, I need to check that during drilling), then you're back into the same position as before. Similarly from half guard, you can do this after moving into the opposite side pass.

In that opposite side pass position, adjust your feet so their leg is still controlled, then turn with your shoulder to begin another back take. I'm not totally clear on how best to adjust your feet: I think you hook your instep over their leg to trap it? I've seen this technique before, but the same thing confused me, along with the turn. Oli's instruction definitely helped, I just need to drill this more. Generally rolling back attacks are a bit fancy for me, but it's useful to have some options against quarter guard.

You can do the same back take from deep half, where this time you'll need to push on their head to step your leg through. However, I'm not sure I entirely got the rest of the technique. Once again, needs more drilling, I'll grab some people at Artemis BJJ when I get home. Judging by the picture Vara put on Facebook (there are loads on the BJJ Globetrotter group, so I asked if I could use them in my posts), it's the shoulder on the same side as the trapped leg, diving over to the opposite side.

Next up, more back attacks with Robson Barbosa.

Pictures courtesy of Vara from BJJ Globetrotters

01 August 2013

01/08/2013 - No Gi (Passing Quarter Guard)

Class #514
Gracie Barra Bristol, (No-Gi), Miles Pearson, Bristol, UK - 01/08/2013

The schedule for nogi has changed slightly, as classes are now 19:30-21:00 rather than 19:00-20:30. That works out quite nicely, as it means I can eat with my girlfriend rather than having to eat sandwiches on my own to make sure I'm leaving enough time between eating and training (I like to leave at least an hour, preferably two). Tonight we were continuing on top mount, but interestingly due to the position Miles picked, it combined elements of passing half guard as well, along with back control.

That's because both techniques were based around quarter guard, which is a common term for when they've trying to get half guard, but have only managed to trap your foot (as per the picture, although most often, you would be in more of a mount position with both knees on the mat: Saulo is most of the way through a half guard pass). This is BJJ, so I'm sure there are a bunch of other names for the same thing. It is something I first encountered as a new blue belt, back in August 2008, when Rob T mentioned it as a way to escape knee-on-belly.

The basic quarter guard pass (which you could argue is also part of maintaining mount), begins by reaching under the armpit on the same side as your trapped knee. Grab their same side shoulder, locking it in, then complete the immobilisation of their skull by clamping your head to the other side. This should stop them being able to turn. Raise up your legs (maintaining plenty of pressure on their upper body: you have the control points of their head and at least one shoulder, making it tough for them), then slide your trapped knee to the other side of their body. From here you should be able to slide free. If you need to create more space to extricate your trapped foot, use your free leg to kick their upper knee.

Miles followed up with a far more complicated and lower percentage response, where you end up taking the back. I would never use this in sparring, but as I very frequently use the heel drag escape from mount (which begins with quarter guard), it is good to know that the person on top might attempt this. After they put you in quarter guard, adjust your foot so you're hooking over their top foot with your shin. The idea is to keep it in place, as if they can uncross their legs, the back take will fail.

Next, turn your body towards their legs, away from your trapped side, pushing your free foot into the heel/ankle of your trapped foot. Do a static forward roll motion, bringing your arm between your legs (as much as you can do while sat astride somebody). Reach for their trailing leg and grab it, then extend your legs (watch out that you don't end up doing a calf slicer, unless you're trying this technique in a competition setting that allows slicers). Hopefully this will put you into a sort of banana split position, where you immediately wrap your arms around their nearest leg, still pushing on your own foot to get the rotation. From there, you're going to try and take their back by again adjusting to grab the neck.

Sparring started off with specific from quarter guard, king of the hill, split into group. Staying on top, I found that in that position you need to immediately go for something as they have already initiated your escape. If you delay, they'll probably get at least to half guard. I therefore went straight to underhook the shoulder, or if I couldn't get that, gripping their head and/or armpit. I generally managed that, though a few times I found myself in half guard.

Underneath, I could normally finish the heel drag, as that is my favourite escape. Once or twice I ended up just opening space, but could then use the butterfly type escapes I taught last week to complete my exit from underneath them. The most complex situation was when Luke attempted the rolling back take we had just learned, but fortunately for me he didn't have control of my legs. That meant I could swivel through and end up in his guard (helped by the fact he is much bigger than me, so inevitably leaves space I can exploit, particularly in nogi).

I'm still watching the Essential Grips clip from No Gi Essentials before each nogi class, which has therefore been my focus when it came to free sparring. Previously I found it really difficult to get the wrist and elbow grip Dean advocates as everything was so sweaty, but tonight it was perhaps a bit cooler as I managed it a few times. I didn't do a whole lot with it, but just getting the grip was an improvement from before, as I could then push into their hips with my feet.

The knee cut worked a few times, helped by the slipperiness. I wasn't doing a whole lot with submissions, though I randomly ended up in a vague head and arm choke type position. Very sloppy though: the first tap was just from their arm being pressed into their mouth, so that wasn't anything to rely upon. I was in the middle of trying to set something up when that happened, so hadn't even realised they were in that position.

I also again landed the Henry Akins sweep, this time without them putting their knee in my tailbone. I'm liking the mechanics of it, so plan to keep on testing it whenever I'm in closed guard, gi or nogi.